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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Rick Nash likely to end up in New York + 5 New Jersey Devils thoughts
Kopykopykopy
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Brookline, MA
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:06 PM ET
Fayne deserves an extension. He is a tank. SO HAPPY that the kings finished the devs off
Moshe52792
New York Rangers
Location: Manalapan, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:06 PM ET
I don't want Nash.

Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?

Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.

Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)

With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666

If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.

Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.

I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.

The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?

That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:11 PM ET
Do they have the space to take on his 7.8 mil?
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:12 PM ET
I don't want Nash.

Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?

Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.

Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)

With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666

If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.

Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.

I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.

The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?

That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it.

- Moshe52792


I'm not saying I disagree, but I think they'll go the Nash route. I think Semin will end up in Detroit, too, but that's irrelevant.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
Do they have the space to take on his 7.8 mil?
- wolfos412


Yes.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
I don't want Nash.

Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?

Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.

Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)

With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666

If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.

Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.

I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.

The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?

That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it.

- Moshe52792


That return gets you Kane. What are you gonna add for Bogosian?
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
Fayne deserves an extension. He is a tank. SO HAPPY that the kings finished the devs off
- Kopykopykopy


I agree. Fayne had a good season, deserves more money. Congrats to you and the Kings.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
Do they have the space to take on his 7.8 mil?
- wolfos412


Without looking I'd assume moving Duby would fee up more than enough space.
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
Without looking I'd assume moving Duby would fee up more than enough space.
- rmdevil313


they have a hair over $21m in cap space with 15 players signed, so ya pretty much if they move Dubi they're good
Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:18 PM ET
While everything has been pretty quiet in terms of who's offering what and if the asking price for Nash is the same now as it was at the Trade Deadline, but one thing is for sure; the New York Rangers are still the favorite.

Why is it for sure? Different people have different favorites in the Nash race. Just because you think that the Rangers are the favorites it doesn't make it "for sure".
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
I don't want Nash.

Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?

Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.

Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)

With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666

If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.

Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.

I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.

The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?

That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it.

- Moshe52792


I see you are going the route of quantity over quality in the Winnipeg deal. Do you honestly think that is good enough for Bogo AND Kane? I certainly don't.
Kopykopykopy
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Brookline, MA
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
I agree. Fayne had a good season, deserves more money. Congrats to you and the Kings.
- Todd.Cordell

Thanks! Congrats to the devils on a great season despite the loss. Also you write a great blog!
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
Why is it for sure? Different people have different favorites in the Nash race. Just because you think that the Rangers are the favorites it doesn't make it "for sure".
- Aliaksandrhn


Most important post of the day.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
I see you are going the route of quantity over quality in the Winnipeg deal. Do you honestly think that is good enough for Bogo AND Kane? I certainly don't.
- Oneonta Penguin


I don't think its close.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
Silly Sather...

The deal is going to require Kreider or Hagelin. Maybe even both of them. Not very smart. Nash really is an average player at best. I think Kreider and Hags could end up being better. I hate the Rangers.. I really do. But I hate to see teams pay out the a$$ for a player who is only worth as much as his ego.

Sather, please don't over pay for him.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
I don't want Nash.

Instead of the Rangers trading all of their young assets to overpay a guy who is already 28, why not package players/picks in order to make upgrades instead?

Make a trade with Winnipeg: Dubi, DZ, 1st rounder, Miller/Thomas, and even more if necessary for Kane and Bogosian. We get better at two positions, and give up valued prospects/picks in return.

Then re-sign Prust, Feds, Mitchell, Stralman, Eminger, and Biron. Then sign Semin. (It appears that Radulov’s agent confirmed that he is going back to Russia for a year)

With the extra cap space we have, Drury’s buyout hit going away, Feds being on a one year deal, Radulov and Rupp being on deals with 2 years left, and a few others being free agents, we’ll be able to retain all of our RFA’s. That, IMO, is how you build a team that can succeed in the long-run, instead of betting in the next 2 years with Nash we can win.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Evander Kane ($4.500m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Alexander Semin ($5.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.875m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
John Mitchell ($1.300m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.400m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m) / Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Anton Stralman ($0.945m)
Michael Sauer ($1.250m) / Steve Eminger ($0.950m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,178,334; BONUSES: $2,100,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $4,121,666

If you want to replace Feds with a younger/faster guy, that’s fine. If you want to replace MItchell with someone else, that’s fine too. I just figured Mitchell is a good keep because he can play anywhere (4th line when everyone is healthy, 3rd line when we have injuries), and Feds is a good vet to have that can step in anywhere in the lineup and perform decently enough.

Our top 4 Dmen are set, and from there you have a pivot between Erixon/Stralman/Eminger to form a 3rd pair. Obviously try to sign Schultz, and if we can get him even better, but we shouldn’t be relying on him. And if Sauer can come back, that will help us as well.

I like this team because we keep cap flexibility moving forward, and with some small moves we should be able to re-sign all of our RFA’s, and keep the core intact. It allows us to have a good, deep team, without adding another monstrous contract that will be impossible to move.

The difference between $7.8 million and $5.0 million may not seem like much, but it is the difference between having a Callahan at $4.3 million and a Rupp at $1.5 million. Nash and Rupp or Kane and Cally?

That's much better than any lineup the Rangers could produce with Nash in it.

- Moshe52792

nope.
gainey is not the gm in winnipeg
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Silly Sather...

The deal is going to require Kreider or Hagelin. Maybe even both of them. Not very smart. Nash really is an average player at best. I think Kreider and Hags could end up being better. I hate the Rangers.. I really do. But I hate to see teams pay out the a$$ for a player who is only worth as much as his ego.

Sather, please don't over pay for him.

- Panthers88



Disagree on every point. I think every team knows Kreider is untouchable, and Hagelin doesn't have a huge ceiling. Nash is well above average. Who has been his best center? A washed up Fedorov? Best linemate? Best defensman he's played with? He's been a one man show for a while and there's only so far that can take you. And why does nash have an ego? Because he doesn't want to waste another 5 years of his career playing in the World Championships?
bobert836
New Jersey Devils
Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC
Joined: 06.19.2010

Jun 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Guys we do have to remember this is Sather here. As much as many of us may hate him, the man makes some unbelievable trades. Hell he traded Gomez and got Mcdonagh, he managed to get someone to take Brashear. If he could get someone else to work with the UFAs he would be an amazing GM
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:00 PM ET
Silly Sather...

The deal is going to require Kreider or Hagelin. Maybe even both of them. Not very smart. Nash really is an average player at best. I think Kreider and Hags could end up being better. I hate the Rangers.. I really do. But I hate to see teams pay out the a$$ for a player who is only worth as much as his ego.

Sather, please don't over pay for him.

- Panthers88


this post is retarded
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
Yes.
- Todd.Cordell


It's impressive to me that they have space shile having players like Ludqvist, Gaborik and Richards... They spend wisely unlike some other teams *cough* Toronto *cough*
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:24 PM ET
Guys we do have to remember this is Sather here. As much as many of us may hate him, the man makes some unbelievable trades. Hell he traded Gomez and got Mcdonagh, he managed to get someone to take Brashear. If he could get someone else to work with the UFAs he would be an amazing GM
- bobert836



Would be??? I think he has a pretty stellar resume... obviously front loaded but still...
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
this post is retarded
- jimbro83

Panther fan, nuff said.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
Jeez, no one likes a good troll anymore. Obviously I think the Jackets are asking a bit much for him, and not even Sather is stupid enough to trade Kreider away..

I'm all for Nash getting a chance on a team that actually gives him a shot at winning.. remember I live in South Florida and am a Heat fan, so I defended Lebron for leaving the Cavs. Nash has no ego, I was kidding. My God people.. lighten up.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
Silly Sather...

The deal is going to require Kreider or Hagelin. Maybe even both of them. Not very smart. Nash really is an average player at best. I think Kreider and Hags could end up being better. I hate the Rangers.. I really do. But I hate to see teams pay out the a$$ for a player who is only worth as much as his ego.

Sather, please don't over pay for him.

- Panthers88

Hagelin is a 3rd line player. I love hags but he will never sniff 30-40 goals. Rick Nash playing with a legit playmaking center would put better numbers. Speaking about over paying for players, all the Panthers did last off season was over pay for players.
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